A sort of winding rant.
Feb. 17th, 2017 11:15 am“Black and white thinking” is said to be a symptom of autism, but honestly in my observations, allistics tend more towards black and white thinking than we auties and aspies do. I also find those on the autism spectrum tend to be more open-minded than allistics.
Yeah, anyone who knows me knows I’m pretty close-minded about some things but that’s not for the same reasons as allistics. For me, if I’m close-minded about something it’s because I spent years being open-minded about it, heard every argument under the sun, made up my mind, and all I keep hearing from the opposition is more of the same BS recycled arguments I’ve heard a million times already. Also, the things I tend to be close-minded about are things where my reasons for believing something are based on my sense of morality/ethics and no argument is likely going to be good enough to bypass that. Take abortion for instance; fetuses are not even intelligent, let alone sentient, so no argument is ever going to convince me that the rights of some non-sentient clump of cells overrules the rights of the sentient human being in whom those cells are growing. Especially when counter-arguments are always based on an incredibly ignorant misunderstanding of science by people who believe that a being that committed multiple genocides against his own creations has somehow changed from a narcissistic evil sociopath into a good loving guy who thinks abortion is murder now, when the bible’s sole reference to abortion was that same god teaching Moses how to perform an abortion, and there are several scenes where this same god tells his followers to gut pregnant women amongst their enemies.(1)
Also, inability to pick up on people’s tone of voice is said to be another autism spectrum symptom. I can’t speak for everyone on the autism spectrum, but for myself, I find that tends to be BS as well. I can pick up on people’s tones just fine. Better, in fact, than allistic people do. I think where the confusion comes in is I pick up on what others are actually feeling as opposed to what they’re trying to convince others and/or themselves they’re feeling, and their hypocrisy is what bugs me. So few people say what they mean or mean what they say, and when I call them on it, they’ve convinced themselves that I’m the stupid one for seeing through their ruse.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that there are so many autistic trans people and autistic bi/pan people, and autistic people on the asexual spectrum. I think people on the autism spectrum tend to be better at finding the edges, the overlaps, the areas that aren’t (just) one thing or another. It’s just that the autistic black/white thinking stems, I think, from a mix of old BS allistic thinking patterns from trying to fit in with the allistics, and our literalistic approach to things (which I think is basically just us expecting people to say what they mean and then getting confused and/or annoyed when they don’t, IE we’re upset that allistics aren’t as honest as we are, which makes sarcasm a concept that takes a lot of work to puzzle out).
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1 = Or another example: I think people’s right to live and be safe from horrifying deaths by guns overrules the “right” of others to own dangerous tools designed solely for murdering people. So from my POV, banning guns and repealing the 2nd amendment is more moral than letting a bunch of yahoos run around killing people just because that’s their fetish.
Yeah, anyone who knows me knows I’m pretty close-minded about some things but that’s not for the same reasons as allistics. For me, if I’m close-minded about something it’s because I spent years being open-minded about it, heard every argument under the sun, made up my mind, and all I keep hearing from the opposition is more of the same BS recycled arguments I’ve heard a million times already. Also, the things I tend to be close-minded about are things where my reasons for believing something are based on my sense of morality/ethics and no argument is likely going to be good enough to bypass that. Take abortion for instance; fetuses are not even intelligent, let alone sentient, so no argument is ever going to convince me that the rights of some non-sentient clump of cells overrules the rights of the sentient human being in whom those cells are growing. Especially when counter-arguments are always based on an incredibly ignorant misunderstanding of science by people who believe that a being that committed multiple genocides against his own creations has somehow changed from a narcissistic evil sociopath into a good loving guy who thinks abortion is murder now, when the bible’s sole reference to abortion was that same god teaching Moses how to perform an abortion, and there are several scenes where this same god tells his followers to gut pregnant women amongst their enemies.(1)
Also, inability to pick up on people’s tone of voice is said to be another autism spectrum symptom. I can’t speak for everyone on the autism spectrum, but for myself, I find that tends to be BS as well. I can pick up on people’s tones just fine. Better, in fact, than allistic people do. I think where the confusion comes in is I pick up on what others are actually feeling as opposed to what they’re trying to convince others and/or themselves they’re feeling, and their hypocrisy is what bugs me. So few people say what they mean or mean what they say, and when I call them on it, they’ve convinced themselves that I’m the stupid one for seeing through their ruse.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that there are so many autistic trans people and autistic bi/pan people, and autistic people on the asexual spectrum. I think people on the autism spectrum tend to be better at finding the edges, the overlaps, the areas that aren’t (just) one thing or another. It’s just that the autistic black/white thinking stems, I think, from a mix of old BS allistic thinking patterns from trying to fit in with the allistics, and our literalistic approach to things (which I think is basically just us expecting people to say what they mean and then getting confused and/or annoyed when they don’t, IE we’re upset that allistics aren’t as honest as we are, which makes sarcasm a concept that takes a lot of work to puzzle out).
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1 = Or another example: I think people’s right to live and be safe from horrifying deaths by guns overrules the “right” of others to own dangerous tools designed solely for murdering people. So from my POV, banning guns and repealing the 2nd amendment is more moral than letting a bunch of yahoos run around killing people just because that’s their fetish.