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On the subject of aerodynamic spaceships: I love the Borg cube ships. They know there's no air in space, they don't need aerodynamics. If they did, they could easily replicate the best aerodynamic forms, but no. No air in space, so we make our ships these big honking cubes. Respect.

The only dumb thing about them is the spherical Borg ships they keep inside the cubes. Looks cool, but realistically the Borg wouldn't do that. They're all about practicality and efficiency. It's much easier to fit smaller cubes into the big cube, that's what they would do. Either that or they'd make their ships like Rubik's cubes, with the various squares able to break off so one big cube could become many smaller cube vessels. Be harder to fight a bunch of smaller cube ships than a single large cube ship.

Honestly my only problem with the Borg is they don't value consent. If they were a hive mind consisting of only volunteers and never forcibly assimilated anyone, never hurt other civilizations except in self defense, they'd be the coolest and best civilization in the whole Trek storyverse, IMHO. Honestly, there's a lot of times I would volunteer to be part of a hive mind and get away from the suffering inherent in being an individual.

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Jul. 21st, 2022 09:55 am
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There's a meme going around that Klingon men have two penises.

Which made me think... if Klingon men have two dicks, do Klingon women have two vaginas? Or are Klingons like hyenas and the women have two pseudo-penises?

(To clarify, hyena females only have one pseudo-penis per individual.)

I mean, I can't imagine anyone managing to be able to rape a Klingon woman, so I figure there might be a reason for that beyond simply being Klingons.

OMG now I'm wondering if B'elanna Torres has a pseudo-penis. And I'm picturing Tom Paris having to put his dick in her pseudo-dick, and Tom being clever says "Initiate docking procedures!"
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There's a lot of legitimate criticisms of the J J Abrams Star Trek reboot movies (you know the ones; red matter, time travel, lens flares go brrr), but where most people go wrong is thinking of them as canon, even as an alternate timeline. The reboot movies like Into Darkness are good movies if you think of them as fan fiction written by a 13 year old boy who is more concerned with the action and adventure than the plot. (Which explains the scantily clad women in the movies as well.) Like, they're good by fan fiction standards, and can be enjoyed as fan fiction, but is it canon? Oh HELL no!
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Controversial opinion: I appreciate what the original series of Star Trek started but most of its episodes are unwatchable garbage. Watching that bigoted POS William Shitner attempt to act is, in particular, so painful it's literal torture. I've seen elementary-school productions of plays less cringey than Shitner's fecal attempts at acting. The only thing more painful to experience than his acting is his singing. Playing his "singing" should be considered a war crime.
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OP: [Posting about the DS9 episode S03 E11, the one with the Bell Riots in it. They posted a picture of Julian Bashir asking Sisko "How could they have let it get so bad?" OP then says "god damn, it hits hard. I work for non-profit organization, helping homeless people and I ask myself this question a lot"]

Me: Turns out that episode was being highly optimistic. Can you imagine our modern government actually trying to help poor people? LOL, I can't! The idea that things might be as GOOD in the real world as they were in that era of Trek history is laughable now.

At least they had shelter, in the slums of the episode. (Our own government actively harasses and steals from homeless people on a regular basis, forcing them to constantly relocate and buy replacements for the things stolen from them.)

At least their government was trying to help, even if they were failing miserably. (Our government is actively trying to kill as many poor people as they can.)

In the episode, people were angry enough to actually riot. (In our real-world nation, most people are either too exhausted to riot from the constant struggle to survive or are too privileged to give a fuck.)

Yeah. Even when Star Trek was trying its hardest to be as dark in its predictions of the near future as possible, they were still being extremely naive and optimistic.

Someone else: Shit. You're right.

Me: Yeah. And I hate it. Also that's bad enough without also mentioning that fascism is on the rise (anti-trans laws, anti-abortion laws, anti-birth control laws, etc) and the Democrats (who have the House, Senate, AND the Presidency, thus all the power to stop it in its tracks) are doing fucking zilch to try to stop it. They're just sitting there twiddling their thumbs, proving their complicity through their inaction. We're on the road to another Holocaust and they don't care. I wish I was exaggerating.
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Someone on a Star Trek community was saying something about the TNG intro, it's not important what, but I commented and thus started this exchange:

Me: I always skip the intro unless I have to use the loo or get something from the kitchen. Also I can't watch TNG anymore because I cringe too hard at so much of it. It'll always hold a special place in my heart, and I love the Picard series -- I love seeing the TNG cast in new stuff. I just can't watch most of the old episodes because of cringe overload.

Rando: got any examples?

Me: Pretty much all of the first two seasons where they were barely trying and just copying TOS episodes half the time. The episode where Wesley was going to be put to death by a bunch of half-naked hippies for accidentally falling on their flowers. Their half-baked attempt to condemn gay conversion camps which came across more as pro-trans message (thus salvaging it a bit), though at least I can use that episode to support my headcanon that Riker is pansexual.

Oh and the episode where Troi got knocked up by/with space Jesus. And as much as I love Data, so much of his dialogue makes me cringe because oh they were trying, but not trying hard enough. Or trying too hard, it's difficult to say. But more than that, the way people treated him even when they were his friends was pretty horrible a lot of the time. I mean, if they were coding him as autistic, the behavior of others towards him was pretty accurate and maybe even not nearly as bad as real NT people treat autistic people. But still cringey because I'm autistic, so I know what it feels like to be mistreated over it.

Then there's the fact Troi is pretty much useless. Clearly someone thought having an empath was a good idea and then A. had no bloody idea how to use such a character realistically or effectively. B. realized that if she was a competent empath and/or counsellor, a lot of the problems written for the show would be over in five minutes with a competent and well written Troi in the room, so they nerfed her. Very poorly. And why was she always on the bridge? If she can pick up on individuals well enough to tell what they're feeling from across the millions of kilometers between ships, she could do that from literally anywhere on the ship. Either by calling the bridge if she sensed something useful (preferably BEFORE the people with eyes had a chance to use those eyes to see the same bloody thing she was sensing), or by Picard calling her on the comms to ask her opinion. Instead of being on the bridge, she should've been in her office. There's what, 1000 people on the Enterprise? With as much pressure as they're all under constantly, she should be fully booked with appointments for her services, instead of lounging about on the bridge repeating the bloody obvious.

But oh man... as cringey as TNG could be, it doesn't hold a candle to TOS. There's only like, maybe 12 good episodes in the entirety of TOS. Which brings me to another issue I have with TNG, something it has in common with TOS: it didn't age well. I don't mean the special effects, I mean the writing, the stories, etc. A lot of both series aged like milk. Even in the good episodes of both there's usually one or two "yikes" moments.

Also me: I mean with the Troi thing, if they wanted to nerf her ability they could have done so by simply making it so she has to block most of the empathic noise out consciously, changing her focus at will to focus on one person, a group of people, etc., and then to sense people on other ships she could need to go broad-spectrum because narrowing her focus doesn't work at that distance, and then on broad-spectrum the other ship gets lost in the noise. They could've done a thing where they'd have to get closer to the other ship for her to sense anything. Or only have her able to sense strong emotions like hatred, which could work as an early warning against incoming attacks.

Or heck, even if she could narrow her focus AND sense people on other ships, a possibly nerfing tool could be to have her get headaches sometimes. She's half human, after all. That's a lot of information to take in at once. As an autistic person, I take in more information than neurotypical people do but a lot less than Troi would, and even what I take in from my normal five senses is enough to give me frequent headaches (at least once a week). Troi could easily have been strategically nerfed on episodes where she'd normally solve things in 5 minutes by just giving her (in)convenient headaches caused by using her empath powers too much.

Also me: Oh BTW what I count as a good episode is generally an episode I can watch multiple times. There were a number of episodes that were okay once, and could be rewatched if I forgot most/all of the episode, but if I remembered the episode could not watch a second time because it wasn't bad, it just... wasn't good enough to suffer through a rewatch.

Mind, there are exceptions; episodes that I can't rewatch because I'm super sensitive to things in the episode, but the episodes are still good. Like the Benny episodes in DS9. Excellent episodes to watch once, love them tackling racism and so on, I think everyone should watch them at least once... but I have basically almost a zero tolerance for the "character can't tell reality and fantasy apart / character is being gaslit by mind controlling forces" trope. Especially if a mental hospital is involved. Never been in one myself, but I can't stand depictions of them in media.

Also, I have hyper-empathy, so anything set in the Jim Crow era (up to and including the 60's and sometimes the 70's) or the slave trade era is a no go for me because my hyper-empathy makes me feel like I'm there as one of the black characters. Though to be honest, another reason I don't like that era is because if I got transported back in time to that era, I'm pretty sure I'd get murdered by the Klan for being actively anti-racist. Especially since skin color is not at all a barrier for me in friendships and dating. I can barely tolerate the racism in the modern day, let alone the kind they had back then.
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The Incubators in Madoka Magica are proof of what I've been saying for years about species like the Vulcans: Not having any emotions (evolutionarily unlikely) would make a species pretty much the ultimate psychopaths. As we see in one timeline, Kyubey would - for lack of a better term - "cheerfully" welcome the destruction of an entire planet full of sapient life forms (earth and humans) to save the universe. No hesitation, no moment of silence for the lost lives, nothing but the satisfaction of a job well done. Lacking emotions, they lack our values. Their ethics are what would be classified as blue/orange morality - IE their ideas of good and evil are on a completely different axis than ours, with very few similarities to ours.

Of course, the Vulcans aren't like that, as they DO have emotions, but they suppress them. Honestly, the Vulcans are even more unlikely than the Incubators, because any species that tried to suppress their emotions like that would have pressure build up and build up until they either had to vent their emotions violently or go insane. I know because I have personal experience trying to suppress my emotions, and the pressure building until it explodes out. For me, it came out in the form of violent angry outbursts. Though some of those were, I'm sure, autistic meltdowns, I know not all of them were. My autistic meltdowns started to reduce in number for many years in my early adolescence as I came to peace with the transition that had been causing them. But then I had another set of issues in my middle adolescence that caused me to start suppressing my emotions, and in place of the meltdowns I had violent outbursts as the emotions exploded from the pressure.

So basically, Vulcans would last maybe a few hundred years before they all went murderously insane and became a plague on the galaxy. Heh, it would be kinda fun to write an alternate universe Star Trek story where exactly that happened.

In fact, the Vulcan killer in that one episode of DS9 kinda proves my point. So many people he had fondness for died, and so quickly, that he went insane and became a serial killer. Even with however many centuries of evolutionary pressure to aid in suppressing their emotions, those emotions overwhelmed his ability to cope and he went violently insane.

Oh and now I'm picturing another story where a Vulcan character is born with some genetic anomaly that futzes with their emotional suppression systems and they lose control.

As to Lt. Commander Data, he *says* he feels no emotions, and he does act more logically and calmly than others, but there are signs all throughout the series that he actually DOES have emotions, they're just a lot more subtle than human emotions. I can understand why he would feel like he had no emotions, when his are so much less intense than human emotions. My fan theory is that his father DID give him emotions, just very subtle ones, and then later made the emotion chip to give him more human like emotions.

Although another fan theory I have, which may or may not contradict that last one, is that Data actually has a condition similar to autism. Plainly it's not the same thing, as autistic people do have emotions and can have very intense emotions at times, and our oddities are basically the result of being overly empathic and overwhelmed, plus a deficiency of the kind of empathy that allows us to understand WHY someone is feeling that way. But since Data has similar struggles of trying to work out other people's emotions and why they're feeling that way, it's very similar to autism in that way. I don't know if any other human mental conditions are more similar to what he has, or if what he has is unique given his artificial origins, but I know I as an autistic person have always identified strongly with Data and many other androids.

But getting back on track: Realistically, a species like the Vulcans suffering under a philosophy that told them to suppress all emotions wouldn't work at all. They'd either go insane, develop lots of stress related illnesses, or give up. As evidence, I present you with Christianity, a religion that is all about suppressing natural desires such as lust, greed, and gluttony under the excuse that they are sinful feelings. Clearly it did not work as intended, or maybe it did, as Western culture's greatest level of conformity to these beliefs yielded the Victorian people, for whom a combo of forced ignorance and forced conformity to Christianity's founding principles resulted in an epidemic of psychological stress and mental illness so bad that without it Freud might never have had reason to invent the science of psychology at all.

Alternatively, if the Vulcans felt strongly enough about the evils of their emotions, they might have had the scientific progress to use genetic engineering to remove or modify their emotions. Now I don't think it would be a good idea to get rid of all emotions, as fear motivates people to avoid things that hurt or kill them, pleasure rewards them for procreating and eating. The closest humans get to having no emotions is those with severe depression becoming apathetic. I suppose logic alone could be used to motivate people, but given that logic is highly subjective, there being all kinds of things that are logical on the surface but end up being completely bad ideas, I think there would come a time when a culture with only logic to guide them would go just as wrong as a species with emotion guiding them.

Of course we know the Vulcans didn't remove their emotions, they suppress them. Which just wouldn't work, as I've said, because of building internal emotional pressure. Oh sure, there's the pon farr every 7 years, but I honestly don't think that would be enough of a vent to make such a species capable of continuing without insanity or mental illness. So no, the Vulcans are completely unrealistic and would never be possible as a species in the real world.

But setting that aside, assuming the Vulcans were able to remove their emotions, they would lose any possibility of a normal moral compass and would likely develop a logic-driven blue/orange morality. I think the Incubators of PMMM would agree wholeheartedly with Spock's quote "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few or the one." Which is very concerning. Whether Vulcans lacked emotions or suppressed them so well that they may as well have had no emotions, either way their logic would develop an blue/orange morality that humans would have no way to comprehend. So in the unlikely event that the Vulcans could exist as the Star Trek universe has them, there's no way in Hell that humans would ever become friends with them. There would just be no way. Oh sure, we'd start out friendly, but slowly here and there we'd come across more and more incidents that revealed the extent of their blue/orange morality, just as we see in PMMM with how the magical girls figure out Kyubey's moral axis. And just like PMMM, humans would - possibly in as few as a hundred years or so - work out enough of the Vulcan morality axis as being utterly horrifying, through incidents that showcased that species' willingness to sacrifice many sapient lives for what would seem truly bizarre or random reasons to us, and conclude that Vulcans are The Enemy.

Speaking of, the Federation's horrible Prime Directive sounds like something that a species with blue/orange morality would think of. Sure, on the surface it sounds like a good idea, but given the many examples we see in Star Trek of it being used to prevent giving aid to sapient life forms when their entire species is about to go extinct from a natural disaster just because they might worship the Federation's people as gods, one has to wonder about it, as that doesn't sound like something humans would think of. In fact, the humans of Star Trek frequently betray that Prime Directive. Could it be because the Vulcans are the ones that came up with the idea, and it's an example of an idea from a species with blue/orange morality? I think so. Because it doesn't sound like something humans would come up with for their own use. Not unless human culture went completely sideways into unknown territory before the founding of the Federation, and the evidence does not support such a thing having happened.

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